A quite brilliant thread from the awesome Russ Jones.

There’s the government and media’s lies and racism and bullsh*t…… and there’s the FACTS! (Tom Lane)

We all think we’re rational human beings. So let’s put that to a test in a little thread, with sources.

This is for those who are in a terrible tizz right now, and think Gary Lineker is actual Satan.

“We are taking too many immigrants”

There are 281 million migrants globally.
worldmigrationreport.iom.int/wmr-2020-inter…

We took 90,000
ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulati…

That’s 0.032%.

We have 0.9% of the global population, so to just do “our part” we should take 30x as many. 

“Immigration would ruin our economy”.

German will take 1.2 million this year.
schengenvisainfo.com/news/germany-e…

We will take about 90,000.

GDP per capita
Germany: $51,203
UK: $46,510

Germany Expected to Receive 1.2 Million Migrants By the End of 2022  – SchengenVisaInfo.com

1.2 million migrants are expected to reach Germany by the end of the year, recording an increase of 35 per cent compared to 2015 levels, which is known as of most serious migration crisis that Europe …https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/germany-expected-to-receive-1-2-million-migrants-by-the-end-of-2022

“Immigrants are a drain!”

Immigrants from outside EU contribute 3% more than they cost, or £5.2 bn a year
ucl.ac.uk/economics/abou…

Immigrants from inside the EU (prior to Brexit) contributed £26.9 bn a year
oxfordeconomics.com/resource/the-f…

Total contribution: £31.1 bn a year 

The Fiscal Impact of Immigration on the UK

European migrants living in the UK contribute £2,300 more to public purse each year than the average adult, suggesting a net contribution of £78,000 to the exchequer over their lifespan in the UK.https://www.oxfordeconomics.com/resource/the-fiscal-impact-of-immigration-on-the-uk/

The Fiscal Effects of Immigration to the UKhttps://www.ucl.ac.uk/economics/about-department/fiscal-effects-immigration-uk

“Immigrants swamp the NHS”

14% of UK population were born overseas
migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/brie…

28% of NHS doctors and nurses were born overseas.
fullfact.org/health/foreign…

You are twice as likely to be treated by an immigrant than lose your place in the queue to one. 

Migrants in the UK: An Overview – Migration Observatory

This briefing provides an overview of the number, population share, geographic distribution and nationalities of migrants in the UK.https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/migrants-in-the-uk-an-overview/

UK has one of the highest levels of foreign-born doctors and nurses in the EU – Full Fact

A Telegraph columnist’s comments exaggerate by claiming the UK is the only EU country with a health service heavily dependent on foreign staff.https://fullfact.org/health/foreign-born-nhs-eu/

“Immigrants steal our houses.”

Firstly, 14% of construction workers are immigrants
citb.co.uk/media/cxxlqsps…

So are 14% of the general population.

So AT WORST they’re maintaining the level of housing-to-people we’d have anyway.

And secondly… 

In the 1960s the UK built a new home for every 14 head of population.

By 2020 we were building 1 new home for every 43.

If you or your kids can’t get a home, it’s because you or your kids elected a govt that doesn’t build houses.

Housebuilding figures under Tories lowest since the Second World War

Completions between 2010 and 2019 will be around 130,000 per year – well down on the 147,000 of the 2000s or 150,000 of the 1990shttps://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/england-house-building-record-second-world-war-conservative-government-home-a8706776.html

“Immigrants get more benefits”

Ummm nope. Legal immigrants are entitled to the same benefits as anyone else. Cos they’re here legally, pay tax, so why shouldn’t they?

Illegal immigrants are entitled to absolutely nothing.

‘Illegal immigrants’ are not entitled to more benefits than pensioners – Full Fact

False information comparing benefits and other financial support has been circulating for more than a decade.https://fullfact.org/online/pensioners-illegal-immigrants-refugees-benefits/

“We can’t afford immigration, we have all this debt to pay.”

The govt’s official OBR says higher migration reduces pressure on govt debt.

The Fiscal Impact of Immigration in the UK – Migration Observatory

This briefing gives an overview of research on the impact of immigration on government finances in the UK and explains the main issues related to estimating the fiscal impact of immigration in the UK.https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/the-fiscal-impact-of-immigration-in-the-uk/

“More immigrants means more crime”.

There is no evidence more immigration causes more crime.

In fact, the continuous reduction in overall property crimes since 2002 corresponded *exactly* with a rising foreign-born population.

Immigration and Crime: The UK and beyond – Migration Observatory

This briefing discusses the impact of immigration on crime, both in the UK and in an international context and reflects on the role of the labour market in the relationship between immigration and cri…https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/immigration-and-crime-evidence-for-the-uk-and-other-countries/

“Stricter laws will deter illegal immigration”.

Since 2010 UK immigration law has been “tightened” 168 times (average 1 a month)
assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/upl…

43 laws on small boats alone
theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/m…

If this stuff deterred, it would have deterred by now, and… 

Forty-three times the Conservatives tried (and failed) to tackle Channel crossings

From jetski patrols to Rwanda deportations, the Tories have not been short of schemes to deter small boatshttps://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/mar/07/conservatives-channel-crossings-small-boats-tories-rwanda-deportation

If you, a British citizen frightened by immigration, can’t keep track of the 168 bits of legislation IN YOUR OWN LANGUAGE, how do you expect a Somali refugee to?

And if they don’t know the law, how on earth can they be deterred by it? It makes NO SENSE. 

“Asylum seekers should stay in the first safe country they reach”

The UN Convention – WHICH WE HELPED TO WRITE – says they can claim asylum in any nation they want to. They don’t have to stay in the first country.

Do refugees have to stay in the first safe country they reach? – Full Fact

Refugees are not required to seek asylum in the first safe country they reach. But under EU law they can sometimes be returned to the first safe EU country they reached.https://fullfact.org/immigration/refugees-first-safe-country/

“We need to stop illegal asylum claims”

There is no such thing as an illegal asylum claim. So we’ve already stopped it. Hurray!

Under the Refugee Convention – WHICH WE HELPED TO WRITE – absolutely anybody can claim asylum, no matter how they get here.

UK Says Refugees Not Welcome

Creating a humane and fair system for all seeking refuge is not only the right thing to do, it is also the most practical.https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/03/08/uk-says-refugees-not-welcome

“We voted for Brexit so should leave these foreign conventions”

Show me where those conventions are mentioned on the referendum paper. Go on. Show me.

Brexit was meant to stop immigration. So were 168 subsequent laws. They didn’t. They won’t. Here’s why…

Living creatures moving from one place to another to get a better life or escape harm pre-dates the invention of passports and lines on maps by 3.7 billion years.

You will never – not ever EVER ???????????????? – stop people wanting to do this. 

So instead of looking at the small boats and shouting at the wind, why not start looking at the REAL reasons you can’t get housing, healthcare, your standard of living is falling, and everything seems shit.

I’ll give you a clue. It isn’t Albania. 

I absolutely guarantee you, the people who are responsible for the shambolic state of Britain – the UK government – are DELIGHTED when you ignore their record and focus on a few harmless, powerless brown people. 

“Never mind all that, immigrants are changing our culture”

The building you’re sitting in right now is held up with Spanish or Iranian gypsum.

Most of your car is probably made in Germany, Mexico or Japan.

The oil that powers it most likely from Saudi Arabia. 

You drink beer from Belgium, vodka from Russian and wine from France.

You gobble Italian pizza and scoff Chinese rice, flavoured with spices from Indonesia.

You wear American jeans and eat chips made from potatoes native to Venezuela. 

Your coffee is Brazilian,​ your tea is Tamil, the sugar is Jamaican and the milk is only safe to drink because a Frenchman made it so.

If you fancy a little flavouring, you’ll use syrup from Canada, chocolate from Colombia, or lemons from Portugal. 

Your democracy is Greek. Your humour is Jewish. Your numbers are Arabic and your letters are Latin. Your pyjamas are Indian and your slippers are Turkish.

And you’re reading this in a language that’s a bastard hybrid of French, Latin, Scandiwegian and Irish. 

And you’ve got the nerve to tell me immigrants are ruining British culture? They ARE British culture.

I’d tell racists to fuck off, but “fuck” is derived from German, French and Dutch words. So they’ll have to find their own pure English profanity, if they can.  

This kinda blew up, so I have to mention:

The Decade In Tory is out now
unbound.com/books/the-deca…

Four Chancellors and a Funeral is available to pre-order.
unbound.com/books/four-cha…

Russ Jones

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